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I know, actually we could do that now, but I'm not sure if we will migrate database from this forum to WordPress forum it won't affect WordPress database and make a big mess there, because built in forum in WordPress uses website database.

What's more, we're going closer and closer to beta stage, everything will change, but can't say anything more. Wink

I'm also considering to not make Suggestions & Feedback forum, but make it that ideas will be discussed with community in discussion forum, because people give a lots of ideas, but they're often not detailed, so it would be better if community could work together on details, for example there would be made a thread for animals only where community could give their ideas how and what animals could look like.

It's far more efficient, ideas are not ascribed to one, but to whole community.We would make a list of all features - Actual, Planned, Suggested by Community, Suggested by Developers and there we would place not threads, but posts - look that many ideas of someone's idea modification appears quite often, but they're not listed.

What's more, suggestion threads are being forgotten usually after few days, so the form of discussed topics will change - because people usually give only some info about their ideas we would form threads where we could gather many ideas of one major thing - for example about creature species or hydraulics that can move itself, or we could discuss game speed, impteligence (about what we have several threads, so it's kind of messy here), or water creatures, etc.

This way we could avoid people to make posts about things that are already suggested or planned, etc.
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Hmm, yes, although I like your template designs, they do make suggestions into a common format with I've found does make it easier to discuss them more intelligently, and no doubt, makes it easier for the devs to evaluate which ones are the most implementable and desirable too. So I'd recommend you don't discard those, even if you do change the way suggestion threads are posted.

Also, WordPress and PHPBB both use MySQL and PHP so both should be able to easily coexist on the same server. All you'd need to to is upload your PHPBB files to the one.com servers in it's own folder along with the database, and then all you need to do on the wordpress site is update your link, this way you could also do away with the forum.dungoendwellers.net url, and replace it with something like http://www.dewlvers.com/forum. You may need to update some of the HTML files and PHP code that handles retrieval of data from the database to reflect the new location of the database and forum, but that should be pretty easy to do for someone familiar with both HTML markup and PHP code. It would be a shame to lose all the discussions we've had here and all the suggestions and stuff. Also, an empty forum pulls in fewer new visitors then a well-populated forum does, so keeping your data is definitely to your advantage. If you do need to change the forum's url, adding a redirect for the old one would also be a good idea to make sure anyone still using your old url can still find you.

Basically, all those discussions where we're mentioning things like Dwelvers, Dungeon Keeper, The Settlers, DK and so on all help this forum do better on searches as these add keywords that make this forum more relevant to someone who, for example, types in "Dungeon Keeper" in a Google search, the more times "dungeon keeper" appears in this forum, the higher it will rank in the search results, the optimum goal being to have this forum come up in the top 10 (page 1), which gets most of the hits from searches. A new forum without any of our discussions would most likely be down on like the 100th page or something useless like that. That means fewer new members and fewer people finding out about Dwelvers, meaning fewer sales down the road.
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(26-02-2014, 09:20 AM)Seriously Unserious Wrote: Hmm, yes, although I like your template designs, they do make suggestions into a common format with I've found does make it easier to discuss them more intelligently, and no doubt, makes it easier for the devs to evaluate which ones are the most implementable and desirable too. So I'd recommend you don't discard those, even if you do change the way suggestion threads are posted.

It's possible templates wouldn't be necessary anymore, because people when replying they not write about even 50% of someone's idea, it's very rare to see someone that discuss with you about all presented on thread creature abilities or each of the trap (BTW we have some multiple ideas in one thread and some... yhh.. lists and each we had to divide into parts - because we allowed to do that), that's why I would like people to make threads about specific topic then collect there their ideas - simply people don't make full suggestions, rarely fill up whole templates.

(26-02-2014, 09:20 AM)Seriously Unserious Wrote: Also, WordPress and PHPBB both use MySQL and PHP so both should be able to easily coexist on the same server. All you'd need to to is upload your PHPBB files to the one.com servers in it's own folder along with the database, and then all you need to do on the wordpress site is update your link, this way you could also do away with the forum.dungoendwellers.net url, and replace it with something like http://www.dewlvers.com/forum. You may need to update some of the HTML files and PHP code that handles retrieval of data from the database to reflect the new location of the database and forum, but that should be pretty easy to do for someone familiar with both HTML markup and PHP code. It would be a shame to lose all the discussions we've had here and all the suggestions and stuff. Also, an empty forum pulls in fewer new visitors then a well-populated forum does, so keeping your data is definitely to your advantage. If you do need to change the forum's url, adding a redirect for the old one would also be a good idea to make sure anyone still using your old url can still find you.

Yea, I did exactly like you said with some my former forums, but they always were set on phpmybb, I just don't know if we move user database there won't be any problem with logging in or function on the whole website, but it would be necessary to do if we want to move all treads and posts. Well maybe we will make a test on free server and then move one db to WordPress. It's true both uses PHP and in theory nothing should go wrong, well I've never did that, imagine that we lost your account or post, that would be cataclysm! Wink

(26-02-2014, 09:20 AM)Seriously Unserious Wrote: Basically, all those discussions where we're mentioning things like Dwelvers, Dungeon Keeper, The Settlers, DK and so on all help this forum do better on searches as these add keywords that make this forum more relevant to someone who, for example, types in "Dungeon Keeper" in a Google search, the more times "dungeon keeper" appears in this forum, the higher it will rank in the search results, the optimum goal being to have this forum come up in the top 10 (page 1), which gets most of the hits from searches. A new forum without any of our discussions would most likely be down on like the 100th page or something useless like that. That means fewer new members and fewer people finding out about Dwelvers, meaning fewer sales down the road.

Yea I know, I had the same problem when I wanted to move db from DK fan forum into new one, well as you know the address will be changed, so we will lose actual position in internet search engines, but still there are many tags.

It all depends on test success, if everything will be ok then we could move everything to bbPress (which is a WordPress forum name we will use). Then every suggestions that will be about certain specie (Humans, Orcs, etc.) we could move into the one thread, I will probably merge some suggestions with each other. In Dwelvers everything will depend on what specie you'll unlock, so each of the specie will need to have specific combination of available creatures a we need to make each usable independently from what specie you'll get (of course species will differ from others in some things and it doesn't mean mixing part of the creatures from one specie with other species wouldn't be a bad solution). Anyway Suggestions & Feedback forum will not be usable any more, just too much good ideas or these that aspired to be good, but hasn't been polished or left too much solvable issues are wasting there.
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Changing the suggestion format was something I had thought would be nice too. For example, the last time I looked over at WFTO forums, the admins would introduce a character or room (albeit after it was created) so members could discuss that new addition. This keeps the suggestions focused instead of being a free for all.

Also, like SU was saying there really shouldn't be a problem with PHPBB and WordPress coexisting. While WordPress can be a really useful tool in websites in need of commenting and blog space, I've found that pluggins are not always kept up to date with the current versions of WordPress which can cause some issues. On my WordPress site, I use the WordPress for blogging only and set the rest of my page content in standard htm pages linked off of the WordPress site because the other pages don't follow the standard theme, and PHP isn't the best method for delivering static content. You could just as easily create the link to the forum directory from the Dwelvers WordPress site, which could save you a lot of headache migrating between the 2 platforms.
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(26-02-2014, 07:37 PM)Mello Tonin Wrote: Changing the suggestion format was something I had thought would be nice too. For example, the last time I looked over at WFTO forums, the admins would introduce a character or room (albeit after it was created) so members could discuss that new addition. This keeps the suggestions focused instead of being a free for all.

I noticed the same and also on WFTO forum. What's interesting more people gave even more specific and creative ideas when they could discuss something presented by developers or other people why got developers approval, etc.

(26-02-2014, 07:37 PM)Mello Tonin Wrote: Also, like SU was saying there really shouldn't be a problem with PHPBB and WordPress coexisting. While WordPress can be a really useful tool in websites in need of commenting and blog space, I've found that pluggins are not always kept up to date with the current versions of WordPress which can cause some issues. On my WordPress site, I use the WordPress for blogging only and set the rest of my page content in standard htm pages linked off of the WordPress site because the other pages don't follow the standard theme, and PHP isn't the best method for delivering static content. You could just as easily create the link to the forum directory from the Dwelvers WordPress site, which could save you a lot of headache migrating between the 2 platforms.

Yes, we had some issues with current wp theme, however wasn't it made by outdated plugins I think (always that were said that is compatible with current wp version), but you're right there is always a risk with different plugins. Well just for the sake of being 100% sure I'll make a test. About migrating data we will think more, because our website as a target takes to be a big community platform where registering gives access to many options, but there's only a sketch of pit plans, so couldn't say more about that. Will see, but I'll have your advices in mind. Smile
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Moving your forum shouldn't bee difficult at all, if you stick with the PHPBB that you're currently using. IMO it works great, the only issue is with the servers at the host, which are unreliable. Since everything to do with this forum's stored either in the PHPBB files or on the MySQL database, all you really need to do is copy all the data over and it should be fine, but yeah, testing it over there first and keeping this forum space up until you've confirmed an error and data loss free transition is an excellent idea.
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Hmm this looks more like hole conversations Big Grin I don't know whats it all about, the important thing is that I'm Winning!
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good job Xiemas, getting this thread back on topic. You deserve that win for doing so. Smile
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Hehe, I've never would said that making offtopics would be on topic, but here we have, so catch me if you can! Big Grin
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OK, you asked for it!

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... looks like I caught you. Tongue
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Nope, still I'm first. Wink
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oh rrreeeaaaalllllyyyy?!

I think not!
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Yes!
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Sebt and I have our own little private forum where the most important stuff is discussed Tongue

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Looks like there is a lot of test to discusse Tongue You sneaky guys!
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