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Brainstorm Creature Mechanic - Picking up creatures
#1
an option i always liked about dk was the abilety to pick up creatures and drop then somewhere else. i have had imps getting stuck on wrong side of walls when sealing off tunels ( left imp with the broken chain message) and had to demolish and rebuild wall till no imp where left on the other side... sometimes many times ... so sugesting the option to grab and drop creatures to get them home and back to work... could also be used to bring reinforcements to some hard battles...
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#2
Hmm yea could be nice, I think it's a part of this thread: http://forum.dwelvers.com/showthread.php?tid=493
Rasmus is trying to fix it that the imps fly to the mother or a near imp or orc, we aren't sure yet.
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#3
That thread is not about imps flying when separated or stuck, it's about imps fleeing when attacked, totally different things.

I agree that there needs to be some way of recovering lost imps, etc when they get sealed of on the wrong side of a wall or pit.
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#4
Ohh hmm wait I still thing there is some sort off tread somewhere maybe in the bugg section
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#5
I think there have been a couple of threads on this suggestion, this is one of the things that people would like implemented the most. I don't want it to be too easy for the player to just drop creatures here and there and make them defend the dungeon. But I will improve the rally flag later on so that it is possible to separate the group when attacking. Another thing is that I could improve the creatures "knowledge" of a enemy entering the dungeon, just so that it won't be actually necessary with a rally flag when defending. I think the rally flag should be mostly used for when the player is preparing an attack or are attacking outside the dungeon boundaries.

Another thing that have been tingling my coding nerves is that I would like to add a "home spell", that the player would be able to drag over an area with creatures, and when the button is released a portal will open in the center of the the selection, and all creatures that were within that selection will run into the portal and get teleported home. And when a specific time a gone by or when all creatures have returned home the portal will close.
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#6
It's possible to do it, also now we are busy with the ladder, elevator, portal thing it makes more sense that there are portals. And is there already a way to select multiple creatures? Or is it for a later verion.
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#7
the portal ides sounds fantastic! since orcs atm are participating in digging without assignment (sometimes far from home) that leaves the base sometimes unguarded and help is far away.... are some kind of guard rooms in the plans to assign guards/patrtol to high hostile ereas?
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#8
That is a concern I have ATM. That the warriors are running around digging and doing imp work, leaving the DM totally undefended at times. Some of the threats can originate from pretty close to the DM too, so if the orcs are all off at the far corner of the map digging for gold and attackers start spawning from, say, a portal located close to the DM, the attackers could reach her long before the nearest orcs get back in response to a rally flag placed near the DM.
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#9
This topic has definitely been discussed before, but I think it was before Sebt started on his Already suggested topic, therefore it has disappeared somewhere.
I can't take this a specific suggestion because it is just to general, I will probably not add the possibility to pick up creatures, so I would like to see more specific suggestions on how to guide the creatures without any direct contact with them.

My idea for this game is that I want the player to give orders to the creatures, that the player is affecting their behaviour indirectly.

Moved to general discussion.
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#10
One idea is to add a bounty flag system similar to what was used in the game Majesty. You put a bounty of extra beer, food, gold, etc. and creatures will randomly decide to respond to it or not, which the chances also depending on what the bounty is for, if it's placed on an unexplored/unclaimed section, imps will be most likely to respond to explore and claim this area if possible. If it's placed on an enemy creature it will be your warriors who will most likely respond by killing the creature to collect the bounty. You could also have a general rally flag that attracts all of your creatures within a specified radius, and a creature specific rally flag that only attracts the specific type of creature it's designed for.

This way you could draw your imps out of an area you want them to seal off without trapping any on the wrong side of the wall.

It can be quite frustrating when you want your imps to seal an area off and some of them keep wandering onto the wrong side of the area and getting themselves trapped, dig the wall out, wait for your imps to go somewhere else, fill it back in, get more imps stuck and have to repeat this process several times.
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#11
I think some of the issues with Imps moving about without direction will go away once we have a way to assign them to certain tasks/work areas. I don't know if something similar to a guard room is planned, but either that or a second type of flag for setting a group to guard an area may be useful for making sure enemies don't enter into your dungeon through the many openings you may have.

I haven't had as much time to play as some of you, so I haven't got my optimized for the new 3D environment, and I'm seeing that I tend to have a lot of openings to the main interior of my dungeon while scouting for resources.
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#12
The new 3d environment also seems to have many huge caverns infested with hostile creatures. They're not such a problem after you've found enough gold to get at least 4 or 5 orcs, but sometimes you have to risk entering these caverns in order to find the gold needed to have the orcs to fight off anything you might find while exploring those caverns.
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